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If God Is Loving, Why Is There Suffering?When suffering touches our lives, the questions it raises suddenly demand answers. It's one thing to break a leg and wait for it to heal. It's another to experience the kind of wrenching pain that can disable our hearts, our minds, our attitudes, and our faith. If God is there and he's good, how can such suffering exist--and what puIf God Is Loving, Why Is There Suffering?When suffering touches our lives, the questions it raises suddenly demand answers. It's one thing to break a leg and wait for it to heal. It's another to experience the kind of wrenching pain that can disable our hearts, our minds, our attitudes, and our faith. If God is there and he's good, how can such suffering exist--and what purpose can it possibly serve?After almost forty years in a wheelchair, Joni Eareckson Tada's intimate experience with suffering gives her a special understanding of God's intentions for people in their pain. In this ZondervanGroupware(TM), she and lifelong friend Steven Estes guide you and your group beyond glib answers. Through six powerful group sessions that include video clips and penetrating discussions, they share glimpses into Joni's personal journey as well as the struggles--and triumphs--of others: children with disabilities, a woman who lost two sons and her marriage, a friend with a debilitating disease. When God Weeps will help your group discover a God who is big enough to understand suffering, wise enough to allow it, and powerful enough to use it for a greater good than any of us can ever imagine.When God Weeps sessions: 1. A Good God in a Suffering World2. What Can Suffering Accomplish in Our Lives?3. How We Respond to Suffering Matters4. Jesus Gives Us Hope5. Finding Contentment6.A Look Toward Heaven...

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  • Jaclynn
    2018-12-04 03:21

    If you think God doesn’t care about the suffering in this world, then you need to read this book. I did not agree with everything theologically that was presented, but it did help me understand God in ways I hadn’t really thought about before. One of Joni’s statements went something like, “ I would much rather be in this chair and knowing the Lord than on my feet without Him.” Through her suffering she came to know Christ in such an intense life changing way. Suffering is not always a bad thing, God can use the suffering for so much good in our lives! Through our suffering, we can also understand a little all that Jesus went through for us.

  • Chezka Vidal
    2018-12-12 03:20

    The most powerful book on suffering. I thought I knew about suffering. I thought i've heard about it enough. Until I read in this book how faithful Christians suffered. Is there sickness in your family that seems utterly hopeless? Are you suffering from an illness from birth or from an accident that is beyond cure? If there's only 1 book in your life that you should read, it should be this. "Written" by no other than Joni Eareckson Tada who is quadriplegic herself. And i say "written" coz she has to use someone else's hands to get her words typewritten.If you have a heart for those who are sick, this book is for you too. Powerful. Insightful. It gives you some answers to your toughest questions when you are suffering.

  • Linda
    2018-11-30 00:32

    This book came across my list of books to consider at just a time when I was pondering this, one of life’s more esoteric questions: Why does a loving God allow suffering?When God Weeps by Joni Eareckson Tada begins with a visit to people who are indeed in states of deep physical suffering. These scenes serve well to render one’s own knowledge of suffering in the world. Beyond the medical issues experienced by the people in this book, I couldn’t help but think of third-world countries, prisoners of war, prisoners of domestic abuse and the holocausts. The issues here are presented in a very harsh light without, in my opinion, enough clear redeeming narrative to do much more than conjure despondency.This book references the Bible abundantly, and I appreciate how biblical metaphors work so well to illustrate difficult concepts. However, When God Weeps places further, different, metaphors on top of the familiar ones, and this only results in confusion. I’m afraid I found much of the writing apparently aimless and unnecessarily confusing. Some paragraphs are only lists of examples used to further the author’s point, and as such, used to excess. It became annoying. This book was simply not well-planned and in dire need of a lot of editing, especially for clarity and flow of reason.I think the author has much to offer on this topic, and I did find some real gems buried under all that language. Finding them, though, means going back over and over to figure out what you just read, working to really puzzle out what the author is trying to express, and detangling all the confusion.

  • Jessica Cox
    2018-12-08 01:20

    This book helped me through my own struggles of understanding why God had allowed me to have a chronic medical condition. When I was diagnosed, as a teenager, I was utterly alone in dealing with it. This book helped me in so many ways. While reading this book, I didn't feel completely alone in my circumstances. And it helped answer questions no one else in my life could.

  • Laura Roth miller
    2018-11-23 00:35

    One of the best books I've ever read. Too bad it was from the library or I would have highlighted and written all over it. Will definitely be buying a copy.

  • Aaron Ventura
    2018-11-14 01:43

    An encouraging book on suffering from a women who has suffered more than most. A good reminder that hope is always available, especially in our trials and afflictions.

  • Ben Zornes
    2018-11-27 00:30

    Listened to the audiobook of this one, read by Joni, and it took me back to when my mom would listen to her radio program each morning. I'm grateful that my mom surrounded us with voices of truth such as Joni, and it was refreshing to revisit her profound story and the winsome way she discusses suffering.Joni is full of cheer and wisdom, which she has only gained through her years of suffering and comforting others who are suffering. Her insight into the topic of how Christians should understand God's purpose in suffering is profound and spot on biblical. There are points where she perhaps states things in a overly sentimental way.A few takeaway points for me were the thought that when someone in the church is suffering it produces incredible unity (i.e. prayers, service, etc.) in the body. We ask God to give us unity in our churches, and very often He will grant a hard province to one of us in order to bring us all together in prayer, fasting and service to each other. We wouldn't pick our trials, but He hand picks them in order to sanctify us and wean us of treasuring earthly joys too closely.Further, sufferings only make sense when we see them as coming from God's hand. Here Joni is thoroughly Calvinist; she doesn't paint a rosy picture of God not wanting trials to happen to us, but He can't do anything about it other than cheer us on in the midst of Satan's ragings. Rather, Joni points out that if our sufferings are not ordained by God, then they are utterly pointless and meaningless. God's sovereign purpose to conform us into Christ's image and share in His sufferings is the only way to make sense of human suffering. We must understand that through all the hardships we must face in this world, God has ordained them and has a purpose behind them all.We know this, Joni points out, because Christ suffered. If God is not the ordainer of such seeming tragedies, then the cross is hollowed of its meaning. As she memorably put it, we will sing praise eternally unto the Lamb which was slain. Our heavenly praise will center upon the sufferings of Christ, and in His death and sufferings all our fleeting trials will make complete sense, and will redound unto the praise of His glory. Not a light topic to deal with, but wonderfully and sweetly dealt with by Joni. I highly recommend getting this on audiobook so you can enjoy her cheerful personality sharing her insights into this difficult issue!

  • Dav
    2018-11-13 01:36

    Overview"If God is loving, why is there suffering?When bad things happen, who’s behind them--God or the devil? When suffering touches our lives, questions like these suddenly demand an answer. From our perspective, suffering doesn’t make sense, especially when we believe in a loving and just God. After more than thirty years in a wheelchair, Joni Eareckson Tada’s intimate experience with suffering gives her a special understanding of God’s intentions for us in our pain.'When God Weeps' goes beyond glib answers that fail us in our time of deepest need. Instead, with firmness and compassion, it reveals a God big enough to understand our suffering, wise enough to allow it—and powerful enough to use it for a greater good than we can ever imagine." B&N/edited"A diving accident in 1967 left Joni Eareckson Tada a quadriplegic in a wheelchair. Today, she is an internationally known mouth artist, a talented vocalist, a radio host, an author of 17 books and an advocate for disabled persons worldwide. ...how she struggled to accept God’s design in her paralysis." Joni and FriendsIt's a powerful book on God's governance in all aspects of our lives, not just suffering. Well written by Joni, a once energetic youth confined to a wheelchair. She has a personal understanding of suffering.

  • Diane DeLong
    2018-12-05 23:43

    Suffering with Parkinson's Disease.A 'must read' for anyone who is living with suffering of any kind. It has changed my perspective concerning my situation, and has renewed my hope. God is preparing me for Eternity.

  • Kate
    2018-11-18 04:48

    3.5 stars

  • Faith
    2018-11-17 04:42

    The first book of Joni's I ever read was Diamonds in the Dust. In this beautiful book she mentioned that one of the first people she questioned about God and His role in suffering was a sixteen year old boy from her church who was a student of the Bible. She agreed to buy him all the cola he wanted if he would come to her house and study the Scriptures on suffering with her. He did, and the conversations they had took them close to the heart of God in our pain, and made them lifelong friends. Thirty years later, When God Weeps was written with the same Steve Estes. Joni and Steve have both deepened their knowledge of the Scriptures. With the help of Steve's wife Verna and Joni's husband Ken they have both grown in the LORD and lived out these answers to suffering in the day to day toil of life, and the answers do not change. From the first time Joni looked at Steve and asked "Did God put me in my wheelchair?" to today, as I listen to Joni on her radio moment and Steve watches his eight children grow up, the answer has never changed.This book will easily be one of my Top Ten of 2013. Joni does not shy away from hard, aching pain. She tells the story of a wheel chair bound friend, wasting away physically, somehow thriving in spirit, and the night he was attacked by ants in his bed. Pain added to pain! How did this strong in spirit weak in body man keep praising God in the middle of afflictions?Some of the things Joni and Steve wrestle with- Do bad things ever happen to "good" people?What about the pain caused by wicked human actions- like the nurse who neglects her patient until he dies and uses his money to feed a cocaine addiction? Is God in charge even when people sin? I mean really sin- murder of a child, rape of a child, all filth and wickedness- does God have power to judge it and someday scour it off of the earth? More- does God have power to scour our filth and wickedness out of our hearts?Scripture says God is Sovereign- over Children dying? Over Women, beautiful young women being abused and healthy young men being injured in war? Yes. He is Sovereign. And He is Good. This book is a passionate book- born out of pain and a look deep into the eyes of Christ. He knows all about suffering. He is Sovereign over yours.A truthful book. An unflinching book. A sometimes shocking book. I dare you to read it.I am grateful to the authors who wrote this book and to Zondervan Publishing who gave me my copy. The appendix of Scripture verses on God's Sovereignty is worth it's weight in gold.

  • Ray
    2018-11-15 22:29

    Joni Eareckson Tada's insights on suffering have been forged during more than thirty years in a wheelchair. In When God Weeps she and her longtime friend Pastor Steve Estes explore questions of theodicy beyond the superficial. They proclaim faith in a God `big enough to understand our suffering, wise enough to allow it." This is not your superficial "God wants everyone to be healthy right now" approach! Their approach is radically God-centered. Rather than starting with man's concerns and then either apologizing for God (like open theism) or accusing him (like skepticism), they attempt to start with who God is. The first section of the book looks at God's gracious self-revelation in Christ. With infectious joy they attempt to describe the Trinitarian God's attributes: his beauty, his goodness, his sovereignty. Their point is that God is contented forever in his own glory. They paint a Biblical picture of a God of infinite passion and love. "Our call to suffer comes from a God tender beyond description" (p. 40). And this God is himself a sacrificial, suffering servant. "The Trinity planned it. The Son endured it. The Spirit enabled him. The Father rejected the Son whom he loved. Jesus, the God-man from Nazareth, perished..... This is who asks us to trust him when he calls on us to suffer" (p.54). God hates suffering (p. 57), and yet, "(t)he Bible could be no clearer. God does ask his children of every nation... to suffer" (p. 65). Alluding to C.S. Lewis' famous line from the Narnia series, they conclude: "the sovereign God who holds your days in his hand is not safe. He's anything but. He's the King, I tell you. But he's good" (p. 93). Having explored God's nature and character in very personal terms, the authors next turn to described God's actions and works in Section II (pp.97f.). As Tada learned from long, painful experience, God's Word tells us that he uses the weak of this world to accomplish his purposes, to his glory and their (our) special honor (p.113; cf. I Cor. 12:22). In this we can have fellowship in his suffering. They note, "By itself, suffering does no good. But when we see it as the thing between God and us, it has meaning" (p.135). The Cross is the key.

  • Ryan Geer
    2018-12-04 00:49

    Really amazing book on suffering. I've read other books on the "problem" of suffering but they've either been way too scholarly or reductionistic. This book has neither problem. Instead it has clear and thorough biblical teaching combined with great narrative examples.

  • Angel Parrish
    2018-12-07 06:45

    I NEEDED to read this book at this time in my life. I was looking for "a book about suffering" as part of a reading challenge, and a friend recommended a different title by Joni. But my local library had this one. I believe God put this book in my path "for such a time as this."Joni (and her pastor friend who writes a few of the chapters) doesn't go for the old, trite answers in this subject. She doesn't spout platitudes. She very honestly deals with the subject of suffering--chronic pain, terminal illness, children with development issues. She addresses the reality of real world-collapsing problems that don't go away. She doesn't shy away from the tough questions. And she doesn't offer false hope.Instead, Joni talks about embracing the "fellowship of suffering." Of learning not to just live with the problems, but to appreciate them. Of learning to embrace the Father so completely, to trust Him so implicitly, that daily suffering becomes a conduit to worship. And she bases every point on the Word of God, never taking it out of context.I'm not going to lie--this book is deep. (Which is why it took me 6 weeks to get through it.) It takes a while to absorb. But as a Christian teacher who has taught on this subject many times, I found answers to questions that I had previously relegated to the list of "we will understand it better by and by" questions. If you are experiencing suffering in your life, you need to read this book. Don't "read through" it. Pick it up, read a portion of a chapter, and then chew on that for a while. You may have to re-read sections to fully grasp what is being said. You should look up the Scriptures she quotes and read the full context. And you should be prepared for an emotional response--you may not always like the answer you find. But besides finding answers, you should also find some peace. I did.

  • Camille Baird
    2018-11-18 06:40

    This book is writen by two long term friends, an evangelical minister/pastor and an equally religious and well versed friend, paralyzed and in a wheelchair from a teenage diving accident. It written about suffering, why we have it, how to get through it, how to help others, what to think about it, examples in the Bible, people who have suffered and how they handled it and how we can relieve the suffering of others. You can tell by the depth of the book that they have put considerable effort and research into the book and are scripturally fluent. My main objection with the book are the numerous editing errors, gramatical errors, inconsistent quotation references, use of multiple Biblical translations and basic construction of the book which should have been taken care of by the editor. I feel like this was a sermon that was delivered unedited to the publisher and while certain comments or manners of speaking translate over well verbally, they do not always read well. I really struggled with some of the passages and some of the a bit too informal treatment of what I thought could have been a subject that should have been treated with a little more dignity and reverence in many instances. On occasion you can modernize scripture into present day and it works out ok, but most people are familiar with KJV passages to understand them, especially when you give good explanations or examples. I felt that there were a few flippant moments.Overlooking the editing and style issues, this book was a good journey for me personally as I referenced my own Bible (KJV) for consistent scriptures that were discussed and I learned on my own. I guess if you want to gain an understanding of a principle and you have some information, you can come to an understanding on your own.... which is probably the best possible way of learning, self discovery.

  • Jlnpeacock
    2018-11-27 00:31

    Most of us do not wish to discuss or to think about suffering and whether it is a requirement in our spiritual life. This book deals with the difficult questions Christians confront when faced with all the trauma that compose our existence. Tada provides excellent Scriptural proofs for what she presents concerning the necessity of Christians to suffer and the great benefit of that pain. One does not read this book for enjoyment, but one can find peace and comfort throughout the book as questions are dealt with honestly and lovingly, as our Saviour does with each of His beloved.

  • Georgia Herod
    2018-11-18 05:24

    Having experienced serious illness and family loss to miscarriage, suffering drew me to this book. Joni has lived 40 years in a wheelchair as a result of a diving accident in which she broke her neck. Her life speaks loudly to the questions related to suffering. As a result, when she speaks, her platform is her wheelchair.When suffering touches our lives, questions like the following suddenly demand an answer. Too often suffering makes no sense to us, to me. If God is a good God, why does He allow suffering? Is suffering God’s will for us? Is God sovereign? Does He cause or merely allow suffering? For what purpose? Excellent theological foundation—Biblically based--in responding to the above questions. The appendices are outstanding—Scripture on God’s Hand in our suffering, Scripture on God’s purpose in our suffering, Can God experience grief? Eareckson concludes because Christ became a man, God knows what pain is, knows what death is; He weeps with us and for us. Worthy of coming back to again and again. No platitudes or trite answers here--real wrestling with the primary issues of life.

  • Bonita
    2018-11-14 22:23

    This book presents one of the clearest studies I've ever encountered of the questions why. Why is there suffering? Why does God allow it? Why, if He is all-powerful, can't He stop it? If He is in control and He allows it, is He really good? Who is God and what is His nature?What makes this book doubly powerful is that the author wrestled with these questions herself for years after an accident left her a quadriplegic at 17; the answers she found are not theory. They are the living, breathing response to the God she searched for, and the God who uses everything we go through to reveal Himself to us.Beautiful book.

  • Reid
    2018-12-02 03:22

    "God permits what He hates, to achieve what He loves"I really liked this book that Tada and Estes wrote about the theology of suffering and questions when people are in pain.God is still good even though He allows people to suffer in horrendous ways.The theology is good, the stories are real; this is no frivolous-pat-answer Christian bandage to the hard realities of suffering.This book also gives me more of a solid Christian perspective when I am working within the disability community.Read it if you can be honest about your fears and doubts about God's love in spite of suffering.

  • Ebookwormy1
    2018-12-12 01:28

    This is an excellent book dealing with topic of why God allows us to suffer and how to work through it. The fact it is written by someone who knows personal suffering so deeply (Joni became was paralyzed in a diving accident when a teen) only contributes to the books poignancy and authenticity. There are no easy answers here, but there are answers.A book to read and re-read as needed and perhaps not even when "needed" but able to be pondered. The highest recommendation possible.For a later title that explores chronic pain specifically, see:A Place of Healing, Tada, 2002https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

  • Kelliec
    2018-12-09 01:24

    This is the most powerful book I've read yet on suffering and how it relates to Christ. A must read for those struggling with bad things that happen in their lives. I must say that I picked this up at the library and it's 2 weeks late getting back because I can't part with it in the house. The appendix is a huge blessing to me; full of Scripture to pray over when you are having a tough time. Over the last couple of years I've read nearly all the verses used in this book, but it's been a wonderful at hand resource for my morning quiet times. I believe it's time to buy my own copy and allow another to enjoy this book. Oh, and pay the library fine.

  • Naomi Scrafano
    2018-12-06 01:47

    I ordered this book at the suggestion of Amazon and when I received it I read the Introduction and immediately put it away for about a year. The Introduction hit really close to home and I could tell this book wasn't something I was ready to read. About a year went by and I picked it up again and I couldn't put it down. It's now dog-eared, highlighted and written in. I can't say enough good things about this book except that if you're hurting and you want some explanation then please read this book. There's no just "give it to God" condescension and each question is offered with honesty and is backed up with scripture. It changed my life.

  • Jennah
    2018-11-22 03:34

    This is a great book, for those to read, who have gone through difficult trials and does not understand why God allows it.Chapters: 1 - I'm Hurting BadSection One: Who is This God?2 - Ecstasy Spilling Over3 - The Suffering God4 - Does He Really Expect Me to Suffer?5- All Trials Great and Small6 - Heaven's Dirty Laundry?Section Two: What is He Up to?7 - A Few Reasons Why8 - The Best Answer We Have9 - Making Sense of SufferingSection Three: How Can I hang On?10 - Cry of the Soul11 - Gaining Contentment12 - Suffering Gone Malignant13 - Suffering Gone

  • Mindy Denigan
    2018-12-09 02:19

    After listening to the audio edition of "When God Weeps," I must say that with each of the three times through this little gem, I have learned more and more. I highly recommend the audio edition. Joni's tone is conversational for addressing the arguments which people make against God's goodness and His perspective on suffering. I will be listening to this again. I so appreciate how she speaks straight from Scripture to enable me to see all the more deeply God's character, His hatred of sin and suffering, yet how He allows what He hates in order to accomplish what He loves.

  • Kelly
    2018-12-11 01:21

    There are some really good ideas in this book (though I don't agree with all of the theology). I think it has the potential to help a lot of people. However, it's very repetitive, and well I can understand how that would be helpful to some people, I found it kind of annoying. Also, there are a lot of references to Tada's backstory, so I think I missed a lot by not having read any of her other books before this one.

  • Chris Armer
    2018-12-03 01:31

    Tada became a paraplegic as a teenager. The book describes her journey in making sense of suffering. She finds her answer in a faith in a Sovereign God whose "decrees and ordinances shape good and evil." The issue of suffering is a difficult issue. Many will find issue with the idea of a God who intentionally causes His creation to suffer. Tada does her best to explain the purpose and benefit of suffering.

  • Elizabeth
    2018-11-23 01:25

    This book was incredible and one of the best I have ever read. It was full of practical theology and real Biblical answers to hard answers. This is one of those books that I will reference and reread often. Even if you are not currently going through suffering you are sure to know someone who is, and sometimes it is harder to bear others' sufferings than your own. This book points all people to the truth that is only found in God's Word

  • Tyler
    2018-11-19 01:32

    Seriously, this is a good book. Even if you think you've got suffering figured out, I recommend it. Joni has been quadriplegic for at least 30 years now so she's had to wrestle with God and make sense of suffering - in light of the biblical ideas that God is overflowing with love and in control of everything.

  • Liz
    2018-11-29 00:19

    I highly recommend this book to anyone suffering, or wondering why God allows us pain. It is not a theological treatise or an intellectual breakdown, it is written from experience (a Christian paraplegic) and the Bible. And even though it is a bit dated in spots and I disagreed sometimes with the way things were phrased, it contains truth that we all need to hear.

  • Jared Mcnabb
    2018-12-02 02:42

    Eareckson Tada has a wonderful perspective on suffering, and her chapters are worth reading and assimilating into your personal theology of suffering. Her chapters have a beautiful movement from desiring to be free of suffering to desiring simply to have Christ.Outside of the chapters she authored I found the writing style to be distracting to the point of annoyance.